Computer Part Creation 2.0

mark

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Yes! Hello! I am back (unfortunately) and I need more opinions, I left the topic about building my own computer for more than a month now... but I am back, and more energized (since I got an extra 300 bucks now). I am not promising you this, however... I will try to make my budget: $600!

My budget: $550
Yes the cost of the build I am showing you right now is over that, however with my begging (AND PRAYING TO GOD PRICES DROP ON CYBER MON./BLACK FRI.) lets all hope I have a chance. I want to build a computer that can run these games smoooooooooothly:
1. Skyrim (Med. Settings)
2. Sims 3 + EP (Med./High Settings)
3. Sims 2 U.C. (Ultra Settings)
4. Minecraft (Somewhat High Settings)
5. Sims 4 [plus EPs?] (High/Ultra Settings)
6. Browser games here and there
That's all I am focusing on as of now... (of course I probably won't be able to get ULTRA on everything... I'd need a 4k computer)
Here's the build... is it nice? :D
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/TJWH7P
Update:
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/iamMark/saved/PvqNnQ
I created a new one (well that was a few days ago though... but the newest ;) )
 
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Solar

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You can probably run all the games you mentioned on high with that build. My build was about ≥1k three years ago and I can still run most new games on ultra (even skyrim and crysis 2).
 
mark

mark

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Solar said:
You can probably run all the games you mentioned on high with that build. My build was about ≥1k three years ago and I can still run most new games on ultra (even skyrim and crysis 2).
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eeeeeeeeeeee yay I hope your right because looking for parts can be tiring,
 
PAL_Kolya

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I would recommend removing the 256 GB SSD, and putting in a smaller one (say, 120 GB max. Probably less). As well, put in a normal HD.

You really wouldn't truly need the SSD for your main storage (nor would you want it for you main storage). I would only put your OS on the SSD, as well as the things you absolutely need to load quickly. As well, using an HD for stuff you don't need to load quickly will give you more than enough space for documents, photos, etc.

Here's a 120GB SSD off of NewEgg. It'll give you an extra $50 to put towards an HD.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820721107
 
promoguy

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Could be better. My build was about $500 and runs games perfectly. I would suggest swapping the SSD for something smaller or a mechanical just as a budget decision. Also upgrade that graphics card, not that great of a card and probably wont run newer games smoothly. Ram is not AS important for gaming. Gaming takes a MAX of 4GB. I only use about 1GB while playing intense games.

Mainly for gaming, you need a great GFX card and a nice CPU. Ram can be downgraded to 4GB as a budget decision as well.

The CPU you have there is solid, best bang for your buck there.

For GPU id go for a Geforce 750ti its better performance wise and will give you better FPS for about $10 more

For a budget build, you really dont need an SSD and HDD, just takes up more power and is just not really needed and doesn't affect gameplay at all. Just loads the game faster but big deal, not worth the cost on a budget build.

Heres a quick budget build I made. This is a build I created as if I were to be paying for it myself and using it daily. http://pcpartpicker.com/p/7nMHnQ

Uses about 87 watts less than your previous build. About $60 cheaper.

If you go in google you can type XXXXX vs XXXXX and compare. That is what I did and found items that are best "$ per performance" The items I picked perform better than the ones you pick such as the CPU and the GFX which matter the most.

This is all just advice, you dont have to buy the build I made lol, just throwing it out there so you can learn, see, and compare if needed. Hope it helped.
 
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promoguy

promoguy

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Mark said:
I'm not a computer guy so I probably did something wrong, however I did change it up and used some of these stuff you recommended me...
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/iamMark/saved/PvqNnQ

Is it any better :o (it's also cheaper ha)
@promoguy @kolyaventuri
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Not even gonna try and BS you since I don't wanna waste your money. The build I created earlier is still better IMO and I would choose that over the build you have created again. Not being mean, I made my fair share of mistakes when I did my first build. Never go cheap on the GFX card and the CPU.

--- You really don't need an SSD and HDD. Yes SSD is nice and loads things a lot quicker, it just doesn't help with gaming performance. I am not bullshitting either, bunch of online articles and tests showing SSDs don't help with gaming.

--- I am personally using an old HDD for my gaming build and it doesn't affect performance at all.

--- The GFX card you selected is a little outdated. I personally use a 7870 in my build and its about that time I upgrade it. It still runs every game 30-60 FPS but with the newer games, its starting to get a little low on the FPS. So the 260x would probably do the trick for older games. But there is nothing worse then having a new game come out that you want to play and cant because of the GFX card. Rather get a step up now so it lasts a few years with newer games that come out.

--- The motherboard you selected is fine for the AMD cpu, but I would go with the Intel one as it performs better in all situations, thus needing a different mobo.

--- The PSU you selected is perfect, no complaints there.

With the moberboard selection, make sure theres enough fan slots. Mine only has 2. A CPU fan and System fan. There are molex conversion kits you can buy for around $10 which will give you more fan options which you WILL need if you don't have enough.

Ill prove more information in a bit, going to gather it all.

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***** CPU TESTING *****​



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***** GPU TESTING *****

The 750 TI performs better than the 260x and is about the same price. If you wanted something even better, you can chuck another $50-$70 to get something even better and longer lasting GFX card. I personally would choose the 750ti over the 260x if I were to do a personal build.

***** SSD VS HDD *****

Here is an article that has tested HDD and SSD on the same games on the same machine specs.
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"The Bottom Line

We can definitively state that our gaming performance as shown prior on our HDDs is exactly the same under the SSDs; there is no difference in gameplay performance. All the feedback and suggestions that we should upgrade to SSDs because our HDDs were holding back gameplay performance and consistency were misplaced. We were not being held back. The actual consistency and smoothness under the SSD is the same as we experienced under our previous HDD; and that HDD was not exactly "new."



Consistency, framerate, gameplay performance, is exactly the same under our new SSDs. That said, the load times of actually getting into the games is greatly improved, and that alone helps us since we are loading in and out of games all day while testing. That's just a time saver. As stated, we are now running SSDs on our video card review systems, but as tested there are no gameplay performance differences because of it. The load time improvements though are very welcomed."

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2013/12/10/hdd_vs_ssd_real_world_gaming_performance/5#.VEglqPnF98E
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mark

mark

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promoguy said:
Could be better. My build was about $500 and runs games perfectly. I would suggest swapping the SSD for something smaller or a mechanical just as a budget decision. Also upgrade that graphics card, not that great of a card and probably wont run newer games smoothly. Ram is not AS important for gaming. Gaming takes a MAX of 4GB. I only use about 1GB while playing intense games.

Mainly for gaming, you need a great GFX card and a nice CPU. Ram can be downgraded to 4GB as a budget decision as well.

The CPU you have there is solid, best bang for your buck there.

For GPU id go for a Geforce 750ti its better performance wise and will give you better FPS for about $10 more

For a budget build, you really dont need an SSD and HDD, just takes up more power and is just not really needed and doesn't affect gameplay at all. Just loads the game faster but big deal, not worth the cost on a budget build.

Heres a quick budget build I made. This is a build I created as if I were to be paying for it myself and using it daily. http://pcpartpicker.com/p/7nMHnQ

Uses about 87 watts less than your previous build. About $60 cheaper.

If you go in google you can type XXXXX vs XXXXX and compare. That is what I did and found items that are best "$ per performance" The items I picked perform better than the ones you pick such as the CPU and the GFX which matter the most.

This is all just advice, you dont have to buy the build I made lol, just throwing it out there so you can learn, see, and compare if needed. Hope it helped.
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the only benefit for changing is power consumption (a lot...)
http://www.hwcompare.com/17288/geforce-gtx-750-ti-vs-radeon-r7-260x/
but i changed the mobo and cpu to what you have
 
PAL_Kolya

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Mark said:
Update :) can I have any more comments on this :o?

http://pcpartpicker.com/user/iamMark/saved/PvqNnQ
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Don't use a single DIMM of RAM.

Unfortunately, that motherboard only has 2 slots for RAM, so if you must stick with that board, use this RAM for $1 more:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231314

I would recommend getting a motherboard with 4 slots, such as this one (though you could do more research):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132115R

Though, that adds to your total cost, as it is a more expensive motherboard.

But either way, don't use a single stick of RAM. After all, (one reason being) if your RAM fails, you don't want your one stick of RAM going bad.
 
mark

mark

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kolyaventuri said:
Don't use a single DIMM of RAM.

Unfortunately, that motherboard only has 2 slots for RAM, so if you must stick with that board, use this RAM for $1 more:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231314

I would recommend getting a motherboard with 4 slots, such as this one (though you could do more research):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132115R

Though, that adds to your total cost, as it is a more expensive motherboard.

But either way, don't use a single stick of RAM. After all, (one reason being) if your RAM fails, you don't want your one stick of RAM going bad.
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I have changed the RAM since you are right, if it fails I have no RAM left :'( also, the one you linked me to had pretty good (and a lot of) ratings on the pcpartpicker site. However, I might just stick with the Motherboard I have listed because I'm not really going all out on gaming and its got good ratings too :)
 
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