Shoutbox removal
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I agree with this as well.
There were many fights lately, but most were caused by someone (usually multiple people actually) being immature and not being able to read something they disagree with and not comment on it. I don't know why, but no one seemed to realize that by telling someone they're "complaining", you could be possibly offending them, considering you're essentially telling them their opinion isn't wanted. Many people already feel as if the staff feel that way. They certainly don't want people on their same level (other members) backseat moderating at them. That, or those people just didn't care.
Most arguments didn't last very long either. In last night's case, there was always someone who would bring up the topic after it was over. (Usually it would be someone who's talking about complaining again, but staff members tend to do this as well. Even if they think they're helping, they're really only opening up a closed door. That happened last night right before the shoutbox was taken down.)
If the moderation issues were worked out, and members learned what not to say (though I'll admit, an ignore feature would help this), everything would be okay.
There were many fights lately, but most were caused by someone (usually multiple people actually) being immature and not being able to read something they disagree with and not comment on it. I don't know why, but no one seemed to realize that by telling someone they're "complaining", you could be possibly offending them, considering you're essentially telling them their opinion isn't wanted. Many people already feel as if the staff feel that way. They certainly don't want people on their same level (other members) backseat moderating at them. That, or those people just didn't care.
Most arguments didn't last very long either. In last night's case, there was always someone who would bring up the topic after it was over. (Usually it would be someone who's talking about complaining again, but staff members tend to do this as well. Even if they think they're helping, they're really only opening up a closed door. That happened last night right before the shoutbox was taken down.)
If the moderation issues were worked out, and members learned what not to say (though I'll admit, an ignore feature would help this), everything would be okay.
This is no different than real life, especially in school. One rotten apple will spoil the bunch. If this many arguments/fights are occurring (especially on a daily basis), then privileges will be lost, and changes must be made. I mean, unless you like to quarrel with other players for enjoyment.
I highly doubt this is a permanent removal. I'm sure it's temporary for obvious reasons. You can all live without the shoutbox for a while - this is not cutting off all ways of communication forever.
I highly doubt this is a permanent removal. I'm sure it's temporary for obvious reasons. You can all live without the shoutbox for a while - this is not cutting off all ways of communication forever.
I don't think you understand exactly or have been shoutbox conversions for very long to know what that community is like (Maybe you have and I apologize if I'm wrong). The in game community is vastly different, I feel, from the sb/forums community. We argue, but not on levels people who don't use the shoutbox daily think we do. We recently had an argument/conversation about religion and it was so mind opening because I got to know different people better. This is not a daily occurrence, and some people who I don't regularly see in the sb only think that the sb is just a huge black hole filled with drama and hate. It's not. It's community, friendly, and loving. Without the SB, we can't be quickly updated or speak to each other as usual.
I agree, the SB is probably going to come back, but I also thing taking it away in the first place was a little over the top. A nice 30 minute mute could have made us all feel better.
I agree, the SB is probably going to come back, but I also thing taking it away in the first place was a little over the top. A nice 30 minute mute could have made us all feel better.
Seriously. I feel cut off from the world of my newly made SB friends. It would have been nice to share the excitement of opening crates...but I also understand the taking down of the SB. It was just getting too out of hand. I really hope it's not a permanent fix, because I loved talking to everyone on there, despite all the drama, there was lots of laughter and pleasantness.
Like a chat forum that's not on My VMK?
I would love for this to happen so we could all talk again, but I'm almost 50% positive that the staff would not allow this because we're not allowed to post things that Mod's believe would be toxic and they can't moderate. On something that people can't moderate, things get out of hand and theres nobody to stop it. With the intervention of mods online, the SB is a nice place. Anything else is just asking for disaster.
I would love for this to happen so we could all talk again, but I'm almost 50% positive that the staff would not allow this because we're not allowed to post things that Mod's believe would be toxic and they can't moderate. On something that people can't moderate, things get out of hand and theres nobody to stop it. With the intervention of mods online, the SB is a nice place. Anything else is just asking for disaster.
eh... let's just put it at this: it depends when you're on the shoutbox. I am not referring to it as a drama-filled vortex, but rather a place where many rules are broken, whether you witness such occurrences or not. You don't have to know what the entire community is like to understand what happens in the shoutbox. and I would like to add... i've been here for very long.
Then again, I apologize for saying you haven't been here for long. I have to disagree with "not having to know what the entire community is like to understand what happens in the shoutbox" because you're just generalizing the trolls and putting that title on people who don't deserve it. I feel like I know what the community is like, and I know for a fact that all of the people in this community are not trolls, and are instead sweet and caring individuals who made this a fun place to be in 
i'm not okay with generalizing people like that.
MyVMK as a whole has many wonderful people - we all know that. However, there are always two sides to a game, the good and bad. The shoutbox was removed for various reasons, and some people have been continually breaking the rules, which also contributed to the removal.
I feel like I know what the community is like, and I know for a fact that all of the people in this community are not trolls, and are instead sweet and caring individuals who made this a fun place to be in
The conversation was only "bad"/arguing/rule-breaking a low minority of the time. Which is normal for pretty much anything... Everyone (especially the staff) is exaggerating it IMO. Most of the time everything went fine. >.> (I would know... I was on it all the time.) Plus if you don't like it, then you don't even have to use it, and it only shows on one page (the forum center thing), so you barely have to see it.
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Technically, we don't allow complaints/rants on here anymore; see this post. The only place this really is allowed is the forum feedback, and even then it's supposed to be more along the lines of constructive criticism.
As with the other shoutbox-related threads, this is being closed as the issue has already been addressed. Thanks for your concern about the shoutbox and the future of the shoutbox!
As with the other shoutbox-related threads, this is being closed as the issue has already been addressed. Thanks for your concern about the shoutbox and the future of the shoutbox!
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