Disney Channel Introduces Gay's

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Goddess

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#81
Ok see right there when I am a parent I would not let my child go anywhere near a Call Of Duty game or an R rated or PG13 movie unless I watched it myself and know its ok and also I would not let my child know about sex till they are 13 and also when my child is older enough to understand I will tell them about Gay people. Also the list just continues on with my children want be allowed to curse until they are out of my house and they want be allowed to have sex till they are married or out of my house and of course they want be allowed to look at porn or anything else that I don't believe they should be doing. Which if you look at everything I said here I gave some of the main basics of being a good parent and what your kids have not business doing because see the problem is in this day and age parents do not discipline their kids the way they use to which is why they are getting pregnant when they are teens or going to jail for selling drugs or under age drinking and ********. Also I would say I would prefer my daughters to go out with a guy and my son to go out with a girl because in my opinion that's how it should be and also because I want some grand kids when they get married.
Adoption is a beautiful thing. Think of all the poor, abandoned children that could be given their best chance. It's simply wonderful.

Btw, what are you going to do if one or more of your children turn out to be homosexual?
 

gravebound

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#82
Ok see right there when I am a parent I would not let my child go anywhere near a Call Of Duty game or an R rated or PG13 movie unless I watched it myself and know its ok and also I would not let my child know about sex till they are 13 and also when my child is older enough to understand I will tell them about Gay people. Also the list just continues on with my children want be allowed to curse until they are out of my house and they want be allowed to have sex till they are married or out of my house and of course they want be allowed to look at porn or anything else that I don't believe they should be doing. Which if you look at everything I said here I gave some of the main basics of being a good parent and what your kids have not business doing because see the problem is in this day and age parents do not discipline their kids the way they use to which is why they are getting pregnant when they are teens or going to jail for selling drugs or under age drinking and ********. Also I would say I would prefer my daughters to go out with a guy and my son to go out with a girl because in my opinion that's how it should be and also because I want some grand kids when they get married.
yes but you don't control your children's romantic lives. and because birthing kids is the only way to acquire them.

you are comparing apples to oranges. lgbtq+ people and representation are not evil, dirty, or immoral. likewise, if you believe they are and you dont want to teach your children about them until a certain age, then hold off from all tv and games in general, because there's going to married couples and kids/preteens/teens with crushes in them everywhere.
oh, were you only referring to non-straight couples? being shown in a very benign, non-sexualized, safe for kids way? there is literally no difference just because the romantic interests are the same gender.
 

Oreo

LIKE NOBODY'S BIDNEHHZ
#83
i am so proud of disney for making bigots like you angry
it's the 21st century, let's allow equality progress




Question, do you do any of this?
-eat ham
-get a hair cut
-gossip
-believe in remarriage after a divorce (or divorce in general?)
-work on sabbath
-AND FOR YOU LADIES, do you talk in church?
-eat shrimp, lobster, other seafood, etc
-do the dirty before you get married
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/07/13-things-the-bible-forbids_n_1327701.html

Because the bible specifically forbids all of this.
Preach it.
 

VampireBoy

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#84
Adoption is a beautiful thing. Think of all the poor, abandoned children that could be given their best chance. It's simply wonderful.
yes but you don't control your children's romantic lives. and because birthing kids is the only way to acquire them.

you are comparing apples to oranges. lgbtq+ people and representation are not evil, dirty, or immoral. likewise, if you believe they are and you dont want to teach your children about them until a certain age, then hold off from all tv and games in general, because there's going to married couples and kids/preteens/teens with crushes in them everywhere.
oh, were you only referring to non-straight couples? being shown in a very benign, non-sexualized, safe for kids way? there is literally no difference just because the romantic interests are the same gender.
The point is I will be teaching them to live by God and yes I will discipline them when they need it and also what happen to the value of being able to have grand kids that actually look like their parents when you get to compliment and say the baby has your eyes or your ears or your hair. I mean if you would see my little sister in real she looks a lot like my mom but either way I know once my kids leave the house I cant control what they do but as long as they live under my roof they will do what I tell them to or they will be grounded. Also I would be one of those parents that don't play no games so if my daughter gets pregnant when she is a teen I am not going to have her living under my roof she and the boyfriend are going to take care of the baby because that is not my job. So point is I will set strict rules when they live under my roof and if my kids get to the point where they refuse to follow them all together they can find another place to live cause they will respect me and I will respect them.
 

supernovagirl

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#85
The point is I will be teaching them to live by God and yes I will discipline them when they need it and also what happen to the value of being able to have grand kids that actually look like their parents when you get to compliment and say the baby has your eyes or your ears or your hair. I mean if you would see my little sister in real she looks a lot like my mom but either way I know once my kids leave the house I cant control what they do but as long as they live under my roof they will do what I tell them to or they will be grounded. Also I would be one of those parents that don't play no games so if my daughter gets pregnant when she is a teen I am not going to have her living under my roof she and the boyfriend are going to take care of the baby because that is not my job. So point is I will set strict rules when they live under my roof and if my kids get to the point where they refuse to follow them all together they can find another place to live cause they will respect me and I will respect them.
comprehensive sexual education is the best way to go to stop pregnancy rates (and abortion rates) in america!!
 

Goddess

Where did 4 years go?!
#86
The point is I will be teaching them to live by God and yes I will discipline them when they need it and also what happen to the value of being able to have grand kids that actually look like their parents when you get to compliment and say the baby has your eyes or your ears or your hair. I mean if you would see my little sister in real she looks a lot like my mom but either way I know once my kids leave the house I cant control what they do but as long as they live under my roof they will do what I tell them to or they will be grounded. Also I would be one of those parents that don't play no games so if my daughter gets pregnant when she is a teen I am not going to have her living under my roof she and the boyfriend are going to take care of the baby because that is not my job. So point is I will set strict rules when they live under my roof and if my kids get to the point where they refuse to follow them all together they can find another place to live cause they will respect me and I will respect them.
There's nothing wrong with wanting your children to have your attributes and traits. But what if one of your children turns out to be homosexual, are you going to render your grandchild invaluable because they're adopted?
 

gravebound

not actually a grave
#87
The point is I will be teaching them to live by God and yes I will discipline them when they need it and also what happen to the value of being able to have grand kids that actually look like their parents when you get to compliment and say the baby has your eyes or your ears or your hair. I mean if you would see my little sister in real she looks a lot like my mom but either way I know once my kids leave the house I cant control what they do but as long as they live under my roof they will do what I tell them to or they will be grounded. Also I would be one of those parents that don't play no games so if my daughter gets pregnant when she is a teen I am not going to have her living under my roof she and the boyfriend are going to take care of the baby because that is not my job. So point is I will set strict rules when they live under my roof and if my kids get to the point where they refuse to follow them all together they can find another place to live cause they will respect me and I will respect them.
the entire point of a parent is to be there for your child and support them, because often times, you're the only one that is there. now i'm not going to delve into your parenting techniques, in my opinion you raise some good(albeit rare) ideas and some harmful to growth ideas, but that's not my personal business, so i'm going to avoid your parenting explanations.

i will say this, though, you must really hate adoption then, by anyone. because the whole point of having children is to have mini-clones. it's not like other kids need safe, loving homes, and it's not like it's a crappy thing to say that the only value you hold in your grandchildren is that they look like you, or that it's even important. because, people look like their grandparents all the time.
 

VampireBoy

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#88
There's nothing wrong with wanting your children to have your attributes and traits. But what if one of your children turns out to be homosexual, are you going to render your grandchild invaluable because they're adopted?
No I will love my grandchild to death even if they are adopted and plus lets say my daughter could not get pregnant or my son married a women who couldn't get pregnant there would still be adoption for that too. Either way I would be a bit disappointed in my child for being gay after everything I taught them but I cant control what they do when they leave the house but when they are still living under my roof then I can control what they do.
 

Goddess

Where did 4 years go?!
#89
No I will love my grandchild to death even if they are adopted and plus lets say my daughter could not get pregnant or my son married a women who couldn't get pregnant there would still be adoption for that too. Either way I would be a bit disappointed in my child for being gay after everything I taught them but I cant control what they do when they leave the house but when they are still living under my roof then I can control what they do.
I understand having your own beliefs, and you are perfectly entitled to being partial to homosexuality being wrong, no matter how wrong I think it is that you feel that way. But you can't control how another human being feels. You can choose to raise your child in a nurturing environment full of acceptance and support, or you can do the opposite and turn your back on your own flesh and blood for being what they are. But no matter what you do, another human beings feelings can never be controlled. It's just the facts of life.
 

gravebound

not actually a grave
#90
Either way I would be a bit disappointed in my child for being gay after everything I taught them but I cant control what they do when they leave the house but when they are still living under my roof then I can control what they do.
that's still judging, dude. implying their choices that no way harm or even affect you is wrong.

by the way, you can't control your child being not straight, no matter what you do. it's inherent. i won't agree with being "born that way", but it is something you do not choose at all. all you can do by controlling them under your roof is making them suppress and hide their identity from you.
 

VampireBoy

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#91
I understand having your own beliefs, and you are perfectly entitled to being partial to homosexuality being wrong, no matter how wrong I think it is that you feel that way. But you can't control how another human being feels. You can choose to raise your child in a nurturing environment full of acceptance and support, or you can do the opposite and turn your back on your own flesh and blood for being what they are. But no matter what you do, another human beings feelings can never be controlled. It's just the facts of life.
That is probably one of the best things you have said tonight and you make a really good point but I promise you I will not turn my back on my child if they turn out to be gay because they are my own flesh and blood and I will love them to death either way because that's called being a true parent.
 

Goddess

Where did 4 years go?!
#92
That is probably one of the best things you have said tonight and you make a really good point but I promise you I will not turn my back on my child if they turn out to be gay because they are my own flesh and blood and I will love them to death either way because that's called being a true parent.
Thank you. I'm glad we can agree on something.
 

gravebound

not actually a grave
#93
That is probably one of the best things you have said tonight and you make a really good point but I promise you I will not turn my back on my child if they turn out to be gay because they are my own flesh and blood and I will love them to death either way because that's called being a true parent.
well, that's the best thing a person with your exact beliefs can do, so kudos to you on that.

EDIT: that sounded wrong, let me clarify: by exact beliefs, i mean not agreeing with non-heterosexuality.
 

VampireBoy

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#95
that's still judging, dude. implying their choices that no way harm or even affect you is wrong.

by the way, you can't control your child being not straight, no matter what you do. it's inherent. i won't agree with being "born that way", but it is something you do not choose at all. all you can do by controlling them under your roof is making them suppress and hide their identity from you.
Which that I still never understood because I use to assume that your kids would see mom and dad and instantly figure later on that you would date the opposite sex. Which I also know being gay is not an easy thing to go through because lots of people judge and criticize people for being gay but then again I was always judge an criticized in school just because I was different and not like most people.
 

gravebound

not actually a grave
#97
Which that I still never understood because I use to assume that your kids would see mom and dad and instantly figure later on that you would date the opposite sex. Which I also know being gay is not an easy thing to go through because lots of people judge and criticize people for being Gay but then again I was always judge an criticized in school just being I was different and not like most people.
it has nothing to do with the kind of family you were raised in. i was raised in a very strict conservative home and i still turned out to be not straight. it's not always an instant thing, some people usually need to go through a few labels or date a few people to figure out who they are.
it's like saying that people who like pancakes and not waffles shouldn't be represented, or are wrong. or that since they were raised eating waffles, they shouldn't like pancakes or want to try them when they see them. you see how weird it sounds now?

i'm very sorry you were put down because of who you were. it's a shame and it's very damaging, especially to children.

but you are being nice to me, and i respect that, i'll politely exit the thread. have a nice night.

[grabs a muffin on the way out and heads to the credit grind.]
 

Stargazing

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#98
I consider myself a devout Christian woman and here is what I have to say.

When I was a senior in high school (about 3.5 years ago) my parents decided to split up. My parents never fought, never cursed, nothing. I was so confused. A few months later my dad sat down with me and told me that he was gay. He said he had felt it all his life, but he chose to ignore the feelings up until that point. At first I was upset and confused because my dad was a Christian man, and my whole life I grew up believing how homosexuality was a sin. I struggled with this for a couple years. But I have recently come up with something.

I have lied, cheated, and made poor decisions in my life. I sin every single day, and that's something that is never going to change. So how is my sin any better or worse than than anyone else's? My dad and I are the equals in the eyes of God. He loves us for who we are. He chooses to look past our flaws and sins. He loves us unconditionally. So shouldn't I do the same?

What I choose to do now is love. I love my dad with all of my heart. He is one of the greatest dads out there. People who are gay, lesbian, bisexual, etc.? I love them too. Just like God loves all of us.

So I commend the Disney Channel for bringing in the lesbian couple. This is our society today. In the end it doesn't matter what I or anyone else thinks about homosexuality. It's all about spreading the love. <3
 
#99
I consider myself a devout Christian woman and here is what I have to say.

When I was a senior in high school (about 3.5 years ago) my parents decided to split up. My parents never fought, never cursed, nothing. I was so confused. A few months later my dad sat down with me and told me that he was gay. He said he had felt it all his life, but he chose to ignore the feelings up until that point. At first I was upset and confused because my dad was a Christian man, and my whole life I grew up believing how homosexuality was a sin. I struggled with this for a couple years. But I have recently come up with something.

I have lied, cheated, and made poor decisions in my life. I sin every single day, and that's something that is never going to change. So how is my sin any better or worse than than anyone else's? My dad and I are the equals in the eyes of God. He loves us for who we are. He chooses to look past our flaws and sins. He loves us unconditionally. So shouldn't I do the same?

What I choose to do now is love. I love my dad with all of my heart. He is one of the greatest dads out there. People who are gay, lesbian, bisexual, etc.? I love them too. Just like God loves all of us.

So I commend the Disney Channel for bringing in the lesbian couple. This is our society today. In the end it doesn't matter what I or anyone else thinks about homosexuality. It's all about spreading the love. <3
Someone give this lady a muffin! :D
 
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