obamacare/national healthcare
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it's not sarcasm.
http://dailycaller.com/2012/07/11/report-thousands-fled-canada-for-health-care-in-2011/
http://blog.heritage.org/2010/02/09/the-canadian-patients’-remedy-for-health-care-go-to-america/
Need I provide more? I personally think the first report, done by a Canadian organization themselves, is the most interesting. You?
http://dailycaller.com/2012/07/11/report-thousands-fled-canada-for-health-care-in-2011/
http://blog.heritage.org/2010/02/09/the-canadian-patients’-remedy-for-health-care-go-to-america/
Need I provide more? I personally think the first report, done by a Canadian organization themselves, is the most interesting. You?
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I'm sure that's the case in some parts of Canada but not all. And the same in the US, some parts of the US have wait times for specialists that rival those numbers.
Some specialists I've had to see in New Jersey have a 6 month waiting list to get in to see the doctor. We have our problems as well.
I've done my research on Canadian healthcare, and wait times to see doctors because I'll be moving there within this year or the next. And nearly everyone I know here has been telling me this same story that in Canada you have to wait a long, long time to get in for appointments with some doctors. And after looking in to it, surprisingly it's not as difficult as people think it is, or as long. It's like a myth that Canada's healthcare being what it is means there's less health treatment opportunities available. Like I said in some parts of Canada this is true, but not all parts, and according to research done where I plan to live, this isn't really the case.
Some specialists I've had to see in New Jersey have a 6 month waiting list to get in to see the doctor. We have our problems as well.
I've done my research on Canadian healthcare, and wait times to see doctors because I'll be moving there within this year or the next. And nearly everyone I know here has been telling me this same story that in Canada you have to wait a long, long time to get in for appointments with some doctors. And after looking in to it, surprisingly it's not as difficult as people think it is, or as long. It's like a myth that Canada's healthcare being what it is means there's less health treatment opportunities available. Like I said in some parts of Canada this is true, but not all parts, and according to research done where I plan to live, this isn't really the case.
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Maybe I'm missing something, but your second link seems to be against the point your making.
From the link:
"Surprisingly few Canadians travel to the United States for health care, despite the persistence of the myth."
http://m.content.healthaffairs.org/content/21/3/19.long
Also could just be me, but the third link is broken.
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I'm sure that's the case in some parts of Canada but not all. And the same in the US, we pay for our healthcare here, yet some parts of the US have wait times for specialists that rival those numbers.
Some specialists I've had to see in New Jersey have a 6 month waiting list to get in to see the doctor. We have our problems as well.
Some specialists I've had to see in New Jersey have a 6 month waiting list to get in to see the doctor. We have our problems as well.
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yeah somehow i was clicking through their studies and it gave me a bad link. I was looking at one about specialty care, not at one about ambulatory (ER type) care.
I'm sure that's the case in some parts of Canada but not all. And the same in the US, we pay for our healthcare here, yet some parts of the US have wait times for specialists that rival those numbers.
Some specialists I've had to see in New Jersey have a 6 month waiting list to get in to see the doctor. We have our problems as well.
Some specialists I've had to see in New Jersey have a 6 month waiting list to get in to see the doctor. We have our problems as well.
To be quite frank, my fiance has had better luck getting medical treatment or care in Canada, than I have in the U.S.
My primary care is a pediatrician because I'm still within college age and that age range is still covered under pediatricians. I can get an appointment with him same day. An appointment with my OB? She's a primary care physician even though she specializes in gynecology, it's harder to get an appointment with her than my primary care. A specialist? I had a lot of difficulty getting appointments with specialists for varying issues I've had. Some of them told me 6 months+ waiting list to get an appointment, not even to see the doc. My fiance's had better luck than I have.
What I mean by "young people" is that, you need to have a certain amount of young healthy people, because they have to pay for the elderly unhealthy people. If you don't have enough young people, the system is going to crumble. Also, there have been many people who signed up, but actually have not paid. Obviously you need to have people pay in order for the system to not fall apart. The administration keeps saying that they won't release the numbers anytime soon, probably because the actual numbers are way lower from the numbers they've been lying about
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Not trying to come at your opinion personally, but it seems like you googled "Canadians come to America for healthcare," and chose 3 links on the first page supporting your claim.
It's interesting to note that links on that same google page talk about how that claim is propaganda supported and regurgitated by Canadian politicians against universal healthcare, as well as conservatives in the US who use it as a point against the ACA.
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Well I don't think registration has even ended yet for this year.
I like the very basic ideas of it, but the execution of the Affordable Care Act was done very sloppily.
I am diabetic and feel secure knowing that, once I leave my parents' insurance plan, I will not be denied for my medical condition. Many health and life insurance companies automatically believe that, because I am a diabetic, I am a high-risk, lazy-bumm, patient that will do nothing to prevent diabetes-related complications (even when I am a type 1 diabetic who is working her rear end off to maintain a non-diabetic A1C level).
I also take comfort in knowing that I will be permitted on my parents' health insurance until I am 26. This gives me more than enough time to go through four years of college and find a job that will work for my medical needs before I am kicked off from my insurance.
The entire execution of Obamacare was poor though. Just getting onto the website to select a healthcare option was as impossible as Justin Bieber becoming a model citizen. In addition, it should not be the person's responsibility to become insured. There should be a public option that offers very basic insurance or insurance subsidies to those that want to be insured (even if it causes a minor increase in taxes), but those that wish to be uninsured will be S.O.L if something happens; if they are not insured, they will be responsible for the medical bill.
I am diabetic and feel secure knowing that, once I leave my parents' insurance plan, I will not be denied for my medical condition. Many health and life insurance companies automatically believe that, because I am a diabetic, I am a high-risk, lazy-bumm, patient that will do nothing to prevent diabetes-related complications (even when I am a type 1 diabetic who is working her rear end off to maintain a non-diabetic A1C level).
I also take comfort in knowing that I will be permitted on my parents' health insurance until I am 26. This gives me more than enough time to go through four years of college and find a job that will work for my medical needs before I am kicked off from my insurance.
The entire execution of Obamacare was poor though. Just getting onto the website to select a healthcare option was as impossible as Justin Bieber becoming a model citizen. In addition, it should not be the person's responsibility to become insured. There should be a public option that offers very basic insurance or insurance subsidies to those that want to be insured (even if it causes a minor increase in taxes), but those that wish to be uninsured will be S.O.L if something happens; if they are not insured, they will be responsible for the medical bill.
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I was assuming that since "the problem is corporations who control
the production of medical equipment" that kind of hints to communism because it implies that the government should
be responsible for the industry
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I was just wondering if you meant communism, that's all. Not reaching any conclusions here.
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